I think the connection he’s talking about is with Orville, a person who SHOULD be studied in school. And history curriculum for public schools is usually dictated by the sensibilities of the community with a generous helping of US propaganda. So it’s very likely that she didn’t make the connection because the Chicago Incident was deemed “too distasteful” for history class. At least, that’s my interpretation.
Orville is still alive (well, sort of), and used to work for the government.*All* of Orville’s research (as well as his mere existence) is classified as Top Secret. That’s *not* public knowledge.
Neither were details of what happened in Chicago, because it would create a public panic.
Orville Schtein isn’t mentioned in school books for 15 year olds for the same reason people on the street in 1944 USA didn’t know about the existence of the Manhattan Project at Los Alamos, or people in the 1960s didn’t learn about Project Gladio and Operation Northwoods in school.
No, that doesn’t follow. People like those vigilantes who helped Schtine find his grandfather will have made damn sure this is well known, at least in the back allies. Way too big to hide. More likely they Phoo phoo the details to young children to not give them nightmares and only tell them the details later in college.
I think he said ‘Public schools’ in regards that his grandpa being like a big time bad guy who did that bad thing in Chicago, which is public knowledge. And the bit Alice doesn’t know about it is because public schools did t learn her that information.
1. Heville never mentioned Orville’s name.
2. Why *would* Orville’s research (weaponized mycology, altering the DNA of children to produce psionic powers) be “public knowledge” instead of extremely classified Top Secret? Especially in their Cold War 2.0 world where the “Internet” doesn’t exist despite it being 2050 or so?
3. Orville is still alive, and at large. Why would he be featured in History school class? School books are not newspapers.
yeah that shit wouldn’t be public knowledge but him destroying a city certainly is
if I ever stated that the internet doesn’t exist in my comic that must have been very long ago, because I do not remember that, and it’s no longer true if it ever was. It works a little differently though maybe someday I’ll get into it.
It exists but was begun very very late? It seems civilian technology generally, apart from hyper specialized adaptive technology for surviving the nuclear aftermath, had otherwise stagnated for 60 years before picking up again just recently. But the EXTREME advances are all in super secret military applications, as has been abundantly clear, but with very different priorities. Have they even been to the moon yet??? They could probably apply Schtien’s teleporter towards colonization of the solar system, but Washington isn’t going to show the Commies ANY cards until they have an unbeatable royal flush! After their triumph, they will look towards civilian applications.
I doubt the teleporter would be good for teleporting beyond earth, or maybe the moon. It needs VERY precise locationing that only satellite data provides. The further you get from earth the fuzzier locations of things become.
wouldn’t want to teleport to mars only to end up stuck halfway in the ground or in the empty vacuum of space D:
and yeah the internet in my universe started out the same, in universities and military, but was mostly a military thing until the 2000s. It never went through the personal webpage era, instead it jumped straight to cellphone stuff, so online shopping isn’t so much a thing but social media is. It’s still full of ads and scams though.
I’ll bet it could at least be handy for saving weeks or months of travel time. Send someone halfway to Mars instantly then travel the rest of the way normally. It could also be handy for placing stealth satellites into orbit without having to launch anything, thus putting eyes in the sky that the Soviets can’t account for. Sending things to the Lagrange point would be particularly easy to relatively pinpoint while minimizing the possibility of accidentally crashing into a civilian satellite in low or high orbit.
I assume the “connection” is that Opa is a notorious mushroom-themed mad science supervillain so not knowing about him is like not knowing who Bin Laden was, blame it on public schooling.
So I understand the intent of the joke, now, but don’t think it was well motivated. When did Herville give the kid enough information to make a connection with Orville? She obviously knows next to nothing about her own father, let alone that side of the family.
Herville probably thinks everyone would/should know because in his huge ego mindset, everything revolves around his family. I mean the people he spent a lot of time with in the past years, including his enemies, all seem to think so. Herville had a serious “ivory tower” problem before he went to prison.
So, Old Man Schtein was Jewish but his wife wasn’t, but his son who wasn’t became a Jew to have the Doc, who is Jewish but has had a daughter who isn’t?
So Doc is technically three quarters Jewish by blood, so she’s less than half…
Orville is christian. He’s eastern orthodox. His ancestors were jewish a long time ago but soviets forced them to convert, but that was like in the 1800s?
IT LIVES!!!
Love both their facial expressions throughout this page. Quite a chill bonding moment for them, so far.
Last panel was a surprise, thought the Doc. would let something more slip about the current situation with his grandfather, not a joke XD.
“Hes a sentient plant zombie that infected and took over a city. And he used to experiment on children.”
Daughter, “…What?”
Jokes aside, yeah that panel is too small for any form of explanation. And I didn’t mention it last time but you really went all out on the backgrounds with the houses & plants. Well done.
don’t tell anyone but two of the backgrounds on this page are copy and pastes from a previous page because it’s the same angle and god damn I am not drawing it a million times XD
I’m getting a little sick of drawing this scene but mostly it’s because of Doc’s stripey shirt. what was I thinking? And I’m not even doing it entirely by hand (obviously) and it’s still annoying haha
Great to see a new page up, and the continuation of this slower-paced moment of awkward bonding.
For what it’s worth (and maybe because I grew up in the vicinity of a few of the “fancy little private school lads” you mention in that other comment), but that last panel totally read as I think you intended it to be read for me: I saw it, was like “ha”, then “wait. That was a punchline. Where have I heard that punchline before?” followed immediately by “OH. Oh of course, given the size of his parent’s house…”
I must be dense, but I don’t get the “public school” zinger.
I’m guessing it’s a joke about her lack of education, not recognising his last name.
I think the connection he’s talking about is with Orville, a person who SHOULD be studied in school. And history curriculum for public schools is usually dictated by the sensibilities of the community with a generous helping of US propaganda. So it’s very likely that she didn’t make the connection because the Chicago Incident was deemed “too distasteful” for history class. At least, that’s my interpretation.
Orville is still alive (well, sort of), and used to work for the government.*All* of Orville’s research (as well as his mere existence) is classified as Top Secret. That’s *not* public knowledge.
Neither were details of what happened in Chicago, because it would create a public panic.
Orville Schtein isn’t mentioned in school books for 15 year olds for the same reason people on the street in 1944 USA didn’t know about the existence of the Manhattan Project at Los Alamos, or people in the 1960s didn’t learn about Project Gladio and Operation Northwoods in school.
No, that doesn’t follow. People like those vigilantes who helped Schtine find his grandfather will have made damn sure this is well known, at least in the back allies. Way too big to hide. More likely they Phoo phoo the details to young children to not give them nightmares and only tell them the details later in college.
I don’t get it either? Is that a dig at the bad image of “public schools” in the USA? Herville had private tutors, didn’t he?
I think he said ‘Public schools’ in regards that his grandpa being like a big time bad guy who did that bad thing in Chicago, which is public knowledge. And the bit Alice doesn’t know about it is because public schools did t learn her that information.
1. Heville never mentioned Orville’s name.
2. Why *would* Orville’s research (weaponized mycology, altering the DNA of children to produce psionic powers) be “public knowledge” instead of extremely classified Top Secret? Especially in their Cold War 2.0 world where the “Internet” doesn’t exist despite it being 2050 or so?
3. Orville is still alive, and at large. Why would he be featured in History school class? School books are not newspapers.
yeah that shit wouldn’t be public knowledge but him destroying a city certainly is
if I ever stated that the internet doesn’t exist in my comic that must have been very long ago, because I do not remember that, and it’s no longer true if it ever was. It works a little differently though maybe someday I’ll get into it.
It exists but was begun very very late? It seems civilian technology generally, apart from hyper specialized adaptive technology for surviving the nuclear aftermath, had otherwise stagnated for 60 years before picking up again just recently. But the EXTREME advances are all in super secret military applications, as has been abundantly clear, but with very different priorities. Have they even been to the moon yet??? They could probably apply Schtien’s teleporter towards colonization of the solar system, but Washington isn’t going to show the Commies ANY cards until they have an unbeatable royal flush! After their triumph, they will look towards civilian applications.
I doubt the teleporter would be good for teleporting beyond earth, or maybe the moon. It needs VERY precise locationing that only satellite data provides. The further you get from earth the fuzzier locations of things become.
wouldn’t want to teleport to mars only to end up stuck halfway in the ground or in the empty vacuum of space D:
and yeah the internet in my universe started out the same, in universities and military, but was mostly a military thing until the 2000s. It never went through the personal webpage era, instead it jumped straight to cellphone stuff, so online shopping isn’t so much a thing but social media is. It’s still full of ads and scams though.
I’ll bet it could at least be handy for saving weeks or months of travel time. Send someone halfway to Mars instantly then travel the rest of the way normally. It could also be handy for placing stealth satellites into orbit without having to launch anything, thus putting eyes in the sky that the Soviets can’t account for. Sending things to the Lagrange point would be particularly easy to relatively pinpoint while minimizing the possibility of accidentally crashing into a civilian satellite in low or high orbit.
I assume the “connection” is that Opa is a notorious mushroom-themed mad science supervillain so not knowing about him is like not knowing who Bin Laden was, blame it on public schooling.
ahhhhggghhh it’s just a goofy joke about what a snob he is, he’s a fancy little private school lad
this isn’t aimed at you specific person I replied to but this whole thread lmao
So I understand the intent of the joke, now, but don’t think it was well motivated. When did Herville give the kid enough information to make a connection with Orville? She obviously knows next to nothing about her own father, let alone that side of the family.
Herville probably thinks everyone would/should know because in his huge ego mindset, everything revolves around his family. I mean the people he spent a lot of time with in the past years, including his enemies, all seem to think so. Herville had a serious “ivory tower” problem before he went to prison.
he has a pretty rare last name that is shared with a notorious city destroying terrorist. I think that’s generally all the info needed.
for what it’s worth, I got it. I’ve seen people do that exact same dig.
So, Old Man Schtein was Jewish but his wife wasn’t, but his son who wasn’t became a Jew to have the Doc, who is Jewish but has had a daughter who isn’t?
So Doc is technically three quarters Jewish by blood, so she’s less than half…
Orville is christian. He’s eastern orthodox. His ancestors were jewish a long time ago but soviets forced them to convert, but that was like in the 1800s?
Yay, he’s back!
IT LIVES!!!
Love both their facial expressions throughout this page. Quite a chill bonding moment for them, so far.
Last panel was a surprise, thought the Doc. would let something more slip about the current situation with his grandfather, not a joke XD.
I don’t think he could talk about orville all in one panel. too much to unpack.
“Hes a sentient plant zombie that infected and took over a city. And he used to experiment on children.”
Daughter, “…What?”
Jokes aside, yeah that panel is too small for any form of explanation. And I didn’t mention it last time but you really went all out on the backgrounds with the houses & plants. Well done.
don’t tell anyone but two of the backgrounds on this page are copy and pastes from a previous page because it’s the same angle and god damn I am not drawing it a million times XD
I’m getting a little sick of drawing this scene but mostly it’s because of Doc’s stripey shirt. what was I thinking? And I’m not even doing it entirely by hand (obviously) and it’s still annoying haha
Great to see a new page up, and the continuation of this slower-paced moment of awkward bonding.
For what it’s worth (and maybe because I grew up in the vicinity of a few of the “fancy little private school lads” you mention in that other comment), but that last panel totally read as I think you intended it to be read for me: I saw it, was like “ha”, then “wait. That was a punchline. Where have I heard that punchline before?” followed immediately by “OH. Oh of course, given the size of his parent’s house…”